Hi there!

I just signed up; it's looking pretty cool around here! I am going to school for costume design and through working with a few students in the animation department, I realized I would love to make clothes for stop motion armatures!! I'm slowly learning more and more and I'm here to learn, pick up advice, and meet new people. I am in awe of the animators and fabricators on these projects, too! So, thanks for having me and I hope to meet all of you in turn.

-Felicia Rose

Views: 1709

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Welcome!

I for one would love to see more skilled puppet costume makers around here!  (Especially if they were interested in doing commissions for a reasonable rate.)  I sort of know the basics, and because of budget constraints I do most of my own costume making,  but there is a lot of swearing and unpicking involved.    In 1:6 scale (11 to 12" tall human puppets), fabric just doesn't behave the same as it does in larger scales, and where several seams cross it can get thick and lumpy with multiple layers of fabric, even with the thinnest fabrics.

http://www.youtube.com/user/StopmoNick

Hi!

Thank you so much for the welcome! One of the reasons I am here is to work with animators! As a matter of fact, I am very interested in doing commissions at very reasonably rates, since I need the experience and I am still in school. I will upload some pictures of things I have done so that you guys can see. :)

I have been working in 1:6 scale lately, and I have been experimenting with fabrics that look like other fabrics when viewed close up. It is really fascinating (and a little labor intensive! lol). I definitely know what you mean about the bunching! So aggravating! I have tried varying my seam placements and stitch lengths to reduce bulk sometimes, but it definitely depends on the fabric :/

Your animations are lovely, by the way!

Hi Welcome. Thats interesting, realy cool that you going in a school for costume design. Where is the school? I Try to make the costume self, but it works not ever :D

I'm sorry about my english but i'm just beginning at learn this language

Definitely welcome!

Just today I was thinking how I needed to make connections with more... shall we call it miniature fabric experts? 

I look forward to seeing your work!

Your English is great!

I go to a school in California at California Institute of the Arts (not to be confused with The Art Institutes, lol!) It is great to hear from you! They way you feel about costumes is the same way I feel about puppet and model making! Ha ha! I try, but they never seem to work out!

Where are you from?


Animalove said:

Hi Welcome. Thats interesting, realy cool that you going in a school for costume design. Where is the school? I Try to make the costume self, but it works not ever :D

I'm sorry about my english but i'm just beginning at learn this language


Thanks Duane!

Everyone is so nice here! Lol I have actually been wondering what to call people who want to make stop motion clothes, but I think "miniature fabric experts" has a nice ring to it! (well, hopefully one day an expert! :p )

Thank you so much! I look forward to checking out your work as well!


Duane Petrie said:

Definitely welcome!

Just today I was thinking how I needed to make connections with more... shall we call it miniature fabric experts? 

I look forward to seeing your work!

Hi Felicia, I'll throw my hat in with the rest who appreciate having someone interested in making puppet fashions on board!! You can probably get lots of work through this board! 

Making puppet clothes can be different in many ways than making clothes for fullsized fleshpuppets. You might very well already know most or all of this, but I'll just toss out a few factoids you might be interested in (most of which I learned from an amazing book called Finishing the Figure by Suzanna Oroyan, about clothes for one-of-a-kind fahion dolls.. out of print now but would be well worth searching through ebay or ABE books or other online used book search engines to find a copy). 

For one, of course, the heads and hands on puppets are often really big - it can be impossible to pull sleeves and collars on over them. This is part of the reason I made my current puppets with removeable arms and heads. But sometimes it's better to just make clothes right in place on the puppet permanently. In the book she demonstrates techniques for building the clothes in place and stitching them right there (from the outside). She also shows how to make removeable clothes in place inside-out (rather than making paper patterns and working off the puppet), then peeling them off, switching them outside-out, and putting the back on. This technique was a life-saver for me! 

No need to make a complete shirt if it'll be covered partially by a jacket or something - just a dickey will do. It can be glued to the front of the puppet. 

Ok, last thing I'll mention - another lifesaver - whenever possible it's a good idea to use stretch fabrics because it can make all the difference when you're animating and struggling to get just a little extra reach or bend or twist you need to strike the right pose. 

I have no idea if you're already aware of any of this - but if you're coming from fullsize fleshpuppet fashion design the rules are probably very different there. I thought a few words to the wise might be worthwhile. 

Oh, just thought of one more thing - by any chance have you already seen the behind-the-scenes featurettes for Coraline or ParaNorman? They show some pretty amazing people at work making tiny little clothes. 

Here's a Coraline featurette - if you look at the channel they have them all listed. Not sure which other ones show clothing, this might be the only one that does (but they're all fun). 

This should take you to a ParaNorman playlist with lots of featurettes (sorry, too lazy to find the right one!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Szcf51pw3Y&list=PL3CE5F7690A9E4B39

But I'm guessing you've probably already seen them anyway. 

Oh, thought of one more thing - and kind of another no brainer, but often you want to sew thin armature wire (soft annealed wire made for sculpture armatures bought from an art or craft shop - never from a hardware store!) into the seams of loose or flowy clothing (example - the bridal train and veil in Corpse Bride). But yeah, I guess everybody knows that. I'm rambling now, so I guess it's time to stop posting! 

:D I think its cool realy great!

I'm from Austria

felicia rose said:

Your English is great!

I go to a school in California at California Institute of the Arts (not to be confused with The Art Institutes, lol!) It is great to hear from you! They way you feel about costumes is the same way I feel about puppet and model making! Ha ha! I try, but they never seem to work out!

Where are you from?


Animalove said:

Hi Welcome. Thats interesting, realy cool that you going in a school for costume design. Where is the school? I Try to make the costume self, but it works not ever :D

I'm sorry about my english but i'm just beginning at learn this language

I just noticed some really nicely dressed puppets in the sidebar that turned out to be yours! You should post them here in the thread! I had no idea you had done (are doing) a Captain Ahab - a subject I know a few things about myself.  

If you say so! I'm still getting used to all this posting and discussioning, etc. That's so great you have done a similar character! And thanks for all the advice you posted earlier! Very valuable stuff! I intend to look more into the knitting of that sweater! Wow!

Strider said:

I just noticed some really nicely dressed puppets in the sidebar that turned out to be yours! You should post them here in the thread! I had no idea you had done (are doing) a Captain Ahab - a subject I know a few things about myself.  

Emily Baxter (emmymme on the board) got really inspired by that sweater and learned to do some miniature knitting, I believe she used regular sewing needles and thread. And my Ahab is the orange fellow staring out of my avatar picture over there <-

Well,you are in the right place Felicia.Its really hard to become "the Jack of all Trades" in this particular profession/hobby.I'm not nearly as experienced as an elite few others are in here.There are some things I do well,and other things I'm so inexperienced and such a novice at I don't even know where to begin.Stop-motion is very much R&D and problem solving.While the basics remain consistant,every puppet/project has its individual challenges.None other than costume design and fabrication.For a puppet to "look great" all the deatils have to be there "in scale",most items and wardrobes are individually hand made(check out a Laika featurette),you just can't walk into a hobby store and find something made for you.I'm still attempting to get  my projects off the ground,and costume fabricatioin is another challenge I'm attempting to get a handle on. Aside from the costumes/wardrobe  being "one of" designs,they also need to be made  "in scale" right down to the buttons,stiches and shoes and that doesn't even include the use of wire armatures cleverly hidden inside the clothing.It doesn't stop at makiing the clothing,the aethestic and finished detailing to the clothing is just as important as the puppet itself.

Reply to Discussion

RSS

MESSAGE BOARD CATEGORIES

STOPMO NEWBIES
basic stopmo discussion

ANIMATOR TALK
experienced animators looking to improve

CAMERA & STAGE
animation camera, lighting and moco rigs

ANIMATION TOOLS & EQUIPMENT
animation tool and rigging discussion

STOP MOTION & COMPUTERS
frame capture, editing, and post-production

STORY
script, storyboarding and storyreel discussion

SOUND
lip-sync, sound effects and music

YOUR STOPMO FILM PROJECT
discuss your stopmo film

ARMATURES
ball & socket and wire armature discussion

MACHINE SHOP
metalwork tool & talk

SCULPTING
sculpture information and advice

HAIR & COSTUME
materials, patterns and technique

CASTING
foam, silicone and resin

CLAY
clay puppet construction

GENERAL PUPPET MAKING
other puppet fabrication issues

STOP MOTION SETS
set design and construction information

MODEL DEPARTMENT
miniature prop discussion

MATTE PAINTINGS
glass matte paintings and backgrounds

GENERAL SPECIAL EFFECTS

STOP MOTION FILM DISCUSSION

FAVORITE STOP MOTION CHARACTERS

PRO ANIMATOR DISCUSSION

FILM FESTIVALS AND EVENTS

ANIMATION SCHOOLS

STOP MOTION BOOKS

STOP MOTION ON VIDEO

JOBS & PROJECTS
post here if you are looking for talent to hire

SWAP MEET
stop motion items for sale

CHAT BOARD
general discussion

SITE FEEDBACK
report bugs, comments and suggestions here

Latest Activity

StopmoNick replied to Shigeru Okada's discussion fixing the puppet with screws
"I drill the holes before I animate.  Then I have to make the puppet foot land in the right…"
3 hours ago
Stanley Milton Strawn commented on Stanley Milton Strawn's video
Thumbnail

Big Trouble From Outer Space Trailer

"Thanks so much Dave...We started  writing it in 1997.  Been working on it  for about…"
9 hours ago
Dave Cooley replied to Dave Cooley's discussion Moving water in a scene
"Story ideas are changing - a beach on a deserted island will make for a better gag. Initially I…"
12 hours ago
Georgia Madden replied to Georgia Madden's discussion Salt Lamp Sub?
"Hi Simon, Brilliant ideas, thank you! Yes, I'll take these into account and look forward to…"
15 hours ago

© 2020   Created by Anthony Scott.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service

.xg_widget_forum_index_index .xg_column.xg_span-7.xg_last {display:none;} .xg_widget_forum_topic_listForCategory .xg_column.xg_span-7.xg_last {display:none;} .xg_widget_forum_topic_show .xg_column.xg_span-7.xg_last {display:none;}