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I want to do this as an experiment some time later this year (need to set up a few things first). But I thought it would be interesting to try shooting some 12fps stuff on medium format film, then developing and scanning it in. (I'll have a small darkroom again soon).
Obviously it would only be suitable for experimental loops or short clips (regarding cost, at least), but seems like an interesting thing to try out.
Probably need something with an interchangeable back for anything over 1 second shots:
645: 15-16 frames per roll of 120
6x6: 12-13 frames per roll of 120
6x7 & up: less than 11 frames per roll of 120, so not really doable.
Large format: uh... maybe one day... but not really.
Has anyone tried this?
Haven't tried it, but did experiment with it once, shooting stills in 35MM, printing and then rephotographing on Super 8 movie film as part of a larger scene. I didn't really have the right equipment to make it work.
Try looking for 220 film - same as 120 only twice as long.
Or of course horizontal 35mm (vistavision), at 3 seconds (36 frames) per roll. But honestly, seems kind of moot, unless it's for a special project (music video, experimental piece). Just use a 5d instead.
220 isn't available in most stocks anymore, and I'd want to develop it at home. Not set up for c41 processing.
Not even sure if I'll do this, but seems like an interesting experiment all the same.
Ron Cole shot some of his film In the Fall of Gravity, years ago, with a 35mm still camera. I think he then re-photographed the prints, but I'm not sure with what. Not out of a desire to be experimental, but because that is what he had that could take single frames.
And Evan has beat me to it with the Temple of Doom mine car shot, which had a Nikon with a bigger back on it to hold a longer strip of 35mm neg.
That ILM video is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Guess I'll have to make the step and do it in Medium Format then when I do it. Seems noone has tried that yet. 65mm or IMAX sized stopmotion, which will only ever be viewed on computer screens, hah. Still, should be a fun experiment.
Hi. I shot sections of my graduation film on a 35mm SLR camera. Not the same as medium format but the process you'll go through is the same. In answer to your reasoning, you don't need a different film holder. Just being able to change the film in darkness.
The problems I had were after having shot; Film scanners are not perfect. Your negatives will never be scanned exactly in the same place and this will also introduce a certain amount of distortion on the edges of the frame. When you are done developing and scanning, you still need to go correct the positions of each individual frame and skew the odd corner on photoshop or other program to make the thing work as a decent strip.
I did 1 minute's worth of animation shot like this; 40 films of 36 exp. all in all;
Yes I ended up with a "non-digital "cool look" (Below are a couple of frames) but never again. Too lengthy a process and not cheap ... But yes, perhaps for short loops it is not a big deal. For the cost of a couple of films processed and scanned by you I'd say give it a go. It really is straight forward.
Thanks guys. That was educational :)
Will do that MF (645) test eventually I think. But I think for everyday use, definitely stick to my 550d or a 5d or such.