Been thinking long and hard about the stop motion for Omega Device. And I've come to this. I think the vast amount of shots can be done via the Mo-Motion technique. It's what was used to create the ultra real motion of the Alien in Alien III. I'll do one or two shots in stop motion, but they will be short.

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Comment by Roger Beck on November 13, 2012 at 4:28am

I'm not familiar with Mo-Motion. Is it similar to what they did to bring the Rancor to life in The Empire Strikes Back or maybe something like this?

Comment by Peter Andrew Montgomery on November 13, 2012 at 6:20am

That's it. Rods on green screen though and shot slow motion.

Comment by StopmoNick on November 21, 2012 at 4:53pm

I think, with effects for live action, the best approach is to find what works best for each shot.  If stop motion gives you the choreography needed, use it, but if a closeup of a creature head can be better done with your hand shoved up it's neck,  or rods against greenscreen, go for it.  (The Rancor remains one of my favourites, because the method was perfectly suited to the closed in setting and what it had to do.)  It's a different game to a pure puppet film where the technique is part of the charm and the film's identity.

Comment by Peter Andrew Montgomery on November 21, 2012 at 5:21pm

I agree Nick, though want to go down another path with this one. I don't think the Mo-Motion has been really used as much as it could be, and to spectacular effect. I'm looking forward the the new challenges this movie brings.

Comment by grecodan on November 24, 2012 at 5:34pm

Recall the great use of that technique in Frank Oz's Little Shop of Horrors. Audrey II was puppeted that way. The movement was amazing.

Comment by Roger Beck on November 25, 2012 at 6:21am

Oops, I posted a playlist rather than the individual video.

Here's the specific video I was referencing:

Comment by Peter Andrew Montgomery on November 25, 2012 at 9:28pm

Grecodan, The giant plant was cable operated and animatronics. Mo- Motion is quite unlike that. :)

Comment by grecodan on November 25, 2012 at 9:35pm

Okay, if that's what the Mo-Motion expression means.

In LSoH the operators were indeed hidden (including inside the plant) so they didn't need to be erased digitally, but the motion was filmed on stage in "slow motion" (the performers, not the camera) and then sped up in post. That was what I was referring to. It gave Audrey some amazingly realistic movements.

Comment by Peter Andrew Montgomery on November 26, 2012 at 12:26am

That's true yes. Also makes sense to shoot slow like that and speed up. I often wondered before seeing the actual behind the scenes footage of her shots how they did it that fast. Slow, they can really stay ahead of what's coming up next in the performance.

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