I'm about to make a stop motion shortfilm! I only need a bit more information about some materials for the puppet. If you know more about great, flexible clay to use for stop motion puppets [Like the ones in "Corpse Bride" and "Frankenweenie", please let me know what I should buy!

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Nick, can I sculp my puppethead/hands/shoes with Fimo soft clay, Bake it and use it in a mould to cast in silicone rubber with? 

StopmoNick said:

As the other members have said, the Corpse Bride, and Frankenweenie puppets are not clay.
Corpse Bride characters are sculpted from plasticine, then a mould is made, and the head and body are cast in silicone rubber. It is a flexible rubber material, so you can animate it, but the skin will stay smooth.
Coraline and ParaNorman use a kind of replacement animation fot the faces - they are made in a hard plastic, and to change the expression, you take off one face and put on the next one. The faces were made on a 3d computer printer, but the same thing can be done by sculpting, making moulds, and casting in plastic.
Both methods let you get a very detailed or smooth finish, and keep itvthat way while you animate.

Animating with plasticine directly is different. It is more direct, you sculpt the plasticine and then start animating it, without having to make moulds and cast in a different material. But your fingers will make marks, and sometimes it will strart to crack if you move it a lot, so you need to repair it and keep smoothing it as you go. For that reaon, clay characters are usually kept simple.

If you really want something more like the Corpse Bride or FRankenweenie human puppets, without casting ir all in silicone from a mould, there are ways to do it.
If the puppet will be wearing clothing, you can make skinny bodies with armature wire and upholstery foam, use latex on the hands, and only use clay for the heads. That way you can make different expressions with the clay, without the whole puppet getting too heavy. Or you can cast only the head in silicone, if you need a more finished look, but still want to be able to move the mouth, and maybe the eyebrows.
Something like the dog Sparky is best made by sculpting and casting in silicone, foam latex, or maybe a soft urethane rubber. You could ty building it up with upholstery foam, and covering with liquid latex to form a skin, but it will probably be a bit rough.

Absolutely, you can do it that way - only don't bake the Fimo. The rule of thumb is - if you want to end up with a soft model (like a rubber puppet) you should have a hard mold - and for that you want to start with a soft original. If you bake the Fimo and make a plaster or Ultracal mold then they'll permanently lock together and you'll never be able to get the sculpture out. So leave it unbaked, then you can dig it out without much trouble. 

So, my Fimo puppethead has to be soft when using it for making the mold? 
Like shown on 1:10 [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fWdZnQRzB0&list=UUldxC_-VlXTwMW... ]

Strider said:

Absolutely, you can do it that way - only don't bake the Fimo. The rule of thumb is - if you want to end up with a soft model (like a rubber puppet) you should have a hard mold - and for that you want to start with a soft original. If you bake the Fimo and make a plaster or Ultracal mold then they'll permanently lock together and you'll never be able to get the sculpture out. So leave it unbaked, then you can dig it out without much trouble. 

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