I was wondering what happened to the Matte Painting section that used to live here. I apologize for this question, as I haven't had the time to check this page for quite some time, but my previous account seems to have been deleted and I didn't bother creating a new one until today.

The entire forum seems to have gotten a wonderful upgrade but all the old threads seem to have also disappeared. I might be navigating wrong or the old Matte Painting section with discussions about traditional Matte Painting might have been moved to somewhere else.

Can someone please advise?

Thank you in advance for your help.

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This is not so much a re-furbishing of the old message board, as a new one replacing it.   It uses different software and  is hosted at a different location.  The old one was looking like it would not be supported much longer, and was getting very old fashioned in it's features, so Anthony started up this new one.  (Was that a year ago, or two years? )  After a week or two, the original URL was set to go to this site, and the old one was discontinued.

Unfortunately that means all the years of content on the old site were lost, including the extensive section on matte painting.  It really was a remarkable document on the history of the art and well worth preserving.

I believe Paul Vortex was looking at the feasibility of moving the old content over to an Archives section, but nothing seems to have come of it.  He may have got back to Anthony about it, but there was no public announcement about whether it was happening or not, as far as I know.

Thank you very much for the information. I would very much like to request it being restored somewhere on the internet, as it contains important and unique content from well respected industry professionals. The documentation and information shared was one of a kind behind the scenes data, significant for the history of Matte Painting. Matte Painting is the original visual effect and actually older than the movie camera itself. Losing the type of discussions this section contained would be a blow to film-making itself.

Is there a way we can help out archiving this somehow?

Yeah, I also noticed it disappearing, it's so unfortunate because it was such an amazing inspiration and resources for matte painters, artists, and history buffs a like.  A treasure trove of great images...I'd love to know where the archive is now as well.  If it was taken down, hopefully we can reinstate it somehow?

David

I too was very saddened at the seemingly irretrievable loss of that wonderful, always exciting  thread and all of it's unique imagery (hundreds of frames of which I contributed) as well as the truly educational aspect whereby genuine matte artists such as Rocco Gioffre, Mark Sullivan, Jim Danforth and Craig Barron would often chip in with pearls of wisdom - all of which was devoured by fellows such as myself.  If it is all able to be unearthed and dusted off alot of folks would learn alot from that great thread.

In the meantime anyone interested in traditional matte work can spend literally days perusing my blogsite:  www.nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com  where a great many of the old SMA matte thread's topics are expanded upon and further developed.  Some of my articles are mammoth to put it lightly, with vast tomes on guys like Jim Danforth and Matthew Yuricich where no stone is left unturned (I hope).

For KONG fans on this forum, my upcoming blog will be an extensive review of all (and I do mean all) of the effects shots featured in the 1933 KING KONG.... even some stop motion, which isn't my usual target with Matte Shot, though can't be overlooked on such a titanic cinematic endeavor that KONG was and remains.

Regards to all fans of 'oil on glass' magic.

NZPete

Glad you spotted this NZ Pete!

I guess NZ Pete's blog is the best place to go.  

I'm bumping this because, of all the content lost from the old forum, the matte painting category was the richest with historic significance.

Does the data even still exist somewhere?

I'm not the only poster here who has offered to help financially with the recovery of the old website

Well, just like much of the stop motion members, many (if not most) of the matte painters have now moved over onto a Facebook group. The members who used to primarily post here have a group there called 'The traditional matte painting fan club' and they have quite an extensive library of the work there. Here's a link for those of you who go there... https://www.facebook.com/groups/116001021862969/

There are still people out there who choose to have nothing to do with the insidious beast that is 'social networking' - me included.

Let's bow our heads for a moment of quiet reflection for that wonderful and thoroughly vital old Matte Painting Thread on SMA that's gone forever - not unlike the old studio backlots and matte departments that were similarly erased. 

Just take a look at this very 'matte painting section' thread now and see how irrelevant and undersubscribed it has become.

NZPete

www.nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com

NZPete - I fully support your position. Do you want me to pass your message along to them?

I have never heard of the Facebook group and unfortunately it seems to be a closed page where you have to first join the Facebook and then be accepted into the fan club. As I believe, the main contributors of the original Matte Painting section here do not engage in facebook socialization. It is a fairly restricted platform that most professional studios actually block access to within their work environment.

The nature of this thread however is not to find a new forum but to restore old content. As such, Anthony Scott has written me a friendly reply, explaining that all the information still exists and that his plan is to archive it as soon as he has the necessary funds. One of the members of SMA.com who understands the coding is working on restoring the boards in his free time but it will take a while.

Hopefully, the old Matte Painting section will exist as an open-to-public read-only archive somewhere soon. Maybe if we had some web space to which we could move the old forum, it might turn out to be the easiest thing to do?

While it's definitely not complete, you may find the internet archive of some use

http://web.archive.org/web/20081220084412/http://www.stopmotionanim...

Nice blog NZPete! I especially like this photo…



NZPete said:

There are still people out there who choose to have nothing to do with the insidious beast that is 'social networking' - me included.

Let's bow our heads for a moment of quiet reflection for that wonderful and thoroughly vital old Matte Painting Thread on SMA that's gone forever - not unlike the old studio backlots and matte departments that were similarly erased. 

Just take a look at this very 'matte painting section' thread now and see how irrelevant and undersubscribed it has become.

NZPete

www.nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com

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