Hi all

Does anyone have any advice on lighting a green screen set up for puppet animation. On line there are plenty of tutorials etc about doing the actual compositing in after effects etc but I'm struggling to find good information on actually lighting and shouting on green screen.

I'll be able to get my puppets about 1 meter from the screen - maybe a little more, so that should be enough that the puppets don't cast a shadow on the screen. In order to light the screen evenly, I'm thinking of ordering something like this:

http://amzn.eu/dapaB9I

(in case the link doesn't work, this is a set of lights that take 4 CFL bulbs, and comes with 70 cm soft boxes)

Does anyone have any experience with lighting green screens? Are lights like these a suitable choice or would anyone recommend anything different?

Thanks

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Have you look at this page? It has some great tips

http://generalspecialist.com/greenscreen-and-bluescreen-checklist/

I'm thinking of ordering something like this:

http://amzn.eu/dapaB9I

take it, idk, but look here what i can got with a cheap softbox:

and as you can see (on photo down bellow), it's like a JUST 8-10 inch out from the screen :3

https://pp.userapi.com/c626720/v626720176/467bc/8MmWmcVamGI.jpg


and my box's have each just one 150w lamp vs these softbox with 4(!) lamp on each. that u post from amazon :3



Serge Taganski said:

and as you can see (on photo down bellow), it's like a JUST 8-10 inch out from the screen :3

https://pp.userapi.com/c626720/v626720176/467bc/8MmWmcVamGI.jpg

Thanks Serge - you got a great result there.

From the photo you posted, I can't quite make out whether you were using 3 soft boxes or if its 2 soft boxes and a reflector? I'd be interested to know.

Also 2 other questions:

Did you find that 150W per soft box gave you enough light? 

Did you have any particular technique for positioning the lights in order to get an even light on the green screen or was it just trial and error?

Many thanks

From the photo you posted, I can't quite make out whether you were using 3 soft boxes or if its 2 soft boxes and a reflector? I'd be interested to know.

yeah, its a 3 soft boxes.

Did you find that 150W per soft box gave you enough light? 

hmm, for me it seems enough, but if not, we can always use a reflector (as you noticed), but i think for small sets, like 1-2m²~ it more than enough

look here, how i make white screen https://pp.userapi.com/c638218/v638218176/272f1/HFpH1L6YEoI.jpg with 2 softboxes

Did you have any particular technique for positioning the lights in order to get an even light on the green screen or was it just trial and error?

for this tiny size of set, i just sent a light from one box to screen and it was enough, when i edit it in after effects, it works wery fine as u can see in result.

much more time i spent to set light as i like to make shadows that i want 

that shot looks awesome Serge... 

thanks ^^

Don't forget that it is important not to let light spill onto the set, so some black wrap is very handy to prevent this.

Hi Simon - thanks for the tip. So do you mean that you would put some black wrap on a stand like a flag to block light reflected off the screen from hitting the set / puppets?

Not light reflected off the screen, but spill coming directly from the lights. Black wrap is very convenient as it can be wrapped round the light, and used many times. A flag is also good. 

To avoid light reflected from the screen from adding a green tinge round the edges of your foreground image, you must have enough distance between the set and the screen. At the moment I am using a blue screen 900mm back from my set, with 2 500W worklights, one each side. One has black wrap scrunched around the light itself, the other has some used like a flag on a stand. As the lights are very hot I wouldn't use anything flammable near them. A bit of overkill perhaps, but they keep the shed warm!

I used to use two 500 watt work lights for my green screen, but I have replaced them with two smaller 150 watt work lights.  That balances better with the small 50 watt lights I am using to light the puppets.  I have around a metre distance between my puppets and the green screen.  The lights for the screen don't hit the puppets, and I try to keep the puppet lights from hitting the screen.

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