Hi there.

Have any of you tried the armatures provided by 
http://www.kineticarmatures.com/
Kinetic Armatures

How are they. How is the metal?
and so on?

Thank you!

-best
Johan Oettinger

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It looks like a well designed armature with joints in all the right places. And no annoying double joints like some kits have, or big thick plates at the wrist where you would want it to be thin. I've bookmarked the link.

It gives the height of the figure as 21 cm, which is smaller than the 1:6 scale I work with, except for a child. But it says you can order a custom armature.

The joints aren't quite as compact as I would like in this size, but the same joints used with longer rods in a 25 to 30 cm ( 10 to 12") figure would fit into a slimmer sculpt. Whether this matters or not depends on the style of puppet. Recently I had to sculpt several child figures in accurate, realistic 1:6 scale, and wrists and ankles were tiny. And super skinny Tim Burton puppets can be even worse. But for chunkier, cartoony puppets, like Wallace and Gromit, there is more than enough room for these armatures.
You can't go much thinner with brass plates (as those appear to be) without them bending under pressure. So to get thinner than that you would need steel plates.

Or do what I do and use armature wire - thin, light, cheap, and when you get as used to using wire as I have, it animates just as well provided you use your framegrabber to really see your moves.

Hi Nick

Thank you for the reply. 
Yes, i agree.
Other than that, it seems to miss a few joints for the neck, shoulders and "stomach" to get full humanoid movements.
One could probably get them to include these joints in a custom build.

Overall it seems nice. I would love to hear if someone tried Kinetic?
Compared to http://www.se-ma-for.com/en/services/services-armatures
That has about the same price range. It does not seam that Kinetic can deliver. 
I´ve received a test from Se-Ma-For armature, it is nice. Small joints, down to 3mm (I believe it was). They make them custom. 

If the Kinetic´s should be better in any way it should be in the smoothness of the joints. Se-Ma-For is not completely smooth, and the joints gets loose relatively quick compared to "John Wright".
But as you mention, Kinetic uses Brass. So they are probably not better than Se-Ma-For.

Yes, I love aluminium wire! And work with it allot.
But for a series with though animation its not quite reliable enough.
What i really want is to have money for "John Wright". I´ve had very good experience with his joints. They are 100% smooth and they dont loosen very easily. 
At 3 times the price compared to Se-Ma-For. They should deliver! And they do.

At this point i want to try a full Se-Ma-For setup. Its relatively cheap, and seems to be worth the money.
Have you worked with Se-Ma-For´s armatures?

Best
-Johan

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