I'm trying to make a Boss of the Planes style cowboy hat. I've been looking and looking for some very thin felt fabric but can only find very thick fabric. Does anyone know of a material that could look similar? My google-fu has turned up nothing.

I thought about making out of chipboard and covering with grass flock, then painting it to the color I wanted. Has anyone used grass flock for anything besides grass? I guess I'll try it out and get back to you guys.

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At the model shop I worked at years ago, we used flocking to simulate carpet on models of 1/24th scale people movers (those tram things at airports). 

Look for jewelry box flocking, it comes in a number of different colors and you can basically mix them to achieve a custom color of your liking. You spray a layer of your base color paint and then the flock adhesive and then add the flock on top of that. 

Hope that helps.

Awesome! This is exactly what I was hoping for. Do you know of any flexible adhesives? I've been thinking about flocking a foam horse puppet.


Dennis Heinzeroth said:

At the model shop I worked at years ago, we used flocking to simulate carpet on models of 1/24th scale people movers (those tram things at airports). 

Look for jewelry box flocking, it comes in a number of different colors and you can basically mix them to achieve a custom color of your liking. You spray a layer of your base color paint and then the flock adhesive and then add the flock on top of that. 

Hope that helps.

Hmmmm, good question. I would think that contact adhesives might be the way to go, like Barge Cement or E6000, but I'm really just guessing. I know cosplayers use those glues to make their flexible costume parts. 

I've used a water based flocking glue in the past like a PVA glue, it's a white liquid that dries clear, and smells similar, but with plasticisers in it to make it a bit flexible.  I've used that on foam latex puppets to stick flock on, or as an additive to paint in place of ProsAide.  The company (in Australia) I got the glue from seems to be long gone.  But something similar must be made somewhere.

Is this a puppet sized cowboy hat?  I don't really know the "Boss of the Planes" reference.  (Plains?  Or is he head of an airline maybe?  Ok, just googled it, a Stetson, without the crease in the early forms.)

 I make puppet hats from liquid latex, with a little fine glass fibre or other tissue to stiffen up the brim.  I've also bought a couple of cowboy hats that appeared to be vac formed plastic, and covered in fine flocking,  around 1:5 scale I would say.  They sited my puppets, which are about 1:6 in height but with heads a little bigger. They were from from a large fabric store chain  (Spotlight) - in the craft section.

You said something about making it from chipboard?  So if it is a solid block, or doesn't need to flex, ordinary PVA glue will work.  And I've just seen this site that says how to apply flocking to the inside of a jewellery box, where they use paint (of the same colour as the flocking) as the glue.

http://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/-flocking-powder

This fedora is a hollow latex hat cast from a plaster mould.  Not flocked, just painted with matt acrylic wall paint.  

The hats at Spotlight, including a cowboy hat - in the Doll and Bear accessories section:

https://www.spotlightstores.com/craft-hobbies/doll-bear-making/doll...

They are vacuum formed plastic, covered in fine flocking.  I got one in white, then airbrushed it to the colour I wanted, a sort of brownish grey.

hey what's that pic from, Nick? Anything we can see online? I'd love to see some of the work from photos you post on here. I appreciate there may be various copyright and stuff but any links to places we can see or pay or whatever?  I love how much character you get into all your puppets

Yes its for a puppet hat.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your foam latex hat. I've shy'd away from foam latex in the past for some reason. The one you did above looks good, so maybe its time for me to dive in.


StopmoNick said:

I've used a water based flocking glue in the past like a PVA glue, it's a white liquid that dries clear, and smells similar, but with plasticisers in it to make it a bit flexible.  I've used that on foam latex puppets to stick flock on, or as an additive to paint in place of ProsAide.  The company (in Australia) I got the glue from seems to be long gone.  But something similar must be made somewhere.

Is this a puppet sized cowboy hat?  I don't really know the "Boss of the Planes" reference.  (Plains?  Or is he head of an airline maybe?  Ok, just googled it, a Stetson, without the crease in the early forms.)

 I make puppet hats from liquid latex, with a little fine glass fibre or other tissue to stiffen up the brim.  I've also bought a couple of cowboy hats that appeared to be vac formed plastic, and covered in fine flocking,  around 1:5 scale I would say.  They sited my puppets, which are about 1:6 in height but with heads a little bigger. They were from from a large fabric store chain  (Spotlight) - in the craft section.

You said something about making it from chipboard?  So if it is a solid block, or doesn't need to flex, ordinary PVA glue will work.  And I've just seen this site that says how to apply flocking to the inside of a jewellery box, where they use paint (of the same colour as the flocking) as the glue.

http://www.cwsonline.com.au/shop/category/-flocking-powder

This fedora is a hollow latex hat cast from a plaster mould.  Not flocked, just painted with matt acrylic wall paint.  

Not foam latex, liquid latex poured into a plaster mould, left to stand for half an hour, then poured out again, leaving a layer of latex clinging to the plaster. Much simpler to use than foam latex. I have a tutorial (stopmonick channel on Youtube) on making latex shoes that is essentially the same process. With the hat, I did press some very fine fibreglass into the latex to stiffen the brim. It's a one piece open mould.

Thanks! looks good! I'm going to try this for my boots!

StopmoNick said:

Not foam latex, liquid latex poured into a plaster mould, left to stand for half an hour, then poured out again, leaving a layer of latex clinging to the plaster. Much simpler to use than foam latex. I have a tutorial (stopmonick channel on Youtube) on making latex shoes that is essentially the same process. With the hat, I did press some very fine fibreglass into the latex to stiffen the brim. It's a one piece open mould.

David, that's a work-in-progress that isn't actually progressing much. I posted photos here when I was first making props and sets for it, must be 3 years ago now, and from time to time since. But no video. That's supposed to be pulp writer Robert E Howard, one of several writer characters who appear in a short about Poe suffering writer's block. The Howard puppet is based on a particular portrait photo where he is wearing a fedora like that, which always comes up in a google search.
David Braga said:

hey what's that pic from, Nick? Anything we can see online? I'd love to see some of the work from photos you post on here. I appreciate there may be various copyright and stuff but any links to places we can see or pay or whatever?  I love how much character you get into all your puppets

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